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Matthew T. Mason's avatar

Your post reminded me of an Oliver Brock paper "The Work Turing Test," with some additional ideas about organizing the test to address a breadth of tasks. (It isn't easy to find, but Oliver is promising to ArXiv it.)

One difference is the connection to language that you propose. Here is an issue I am curious about. I would say that our conscious processes have only a tenuous grasp of what our subconscious physical intelligence (the "inner robot"?) is doing. If you ask somebody how they do something, they are likely to expose a limited understanding. I am surprised, when somebody gives a simplistic answer, the inner robot doesn't smack its forehead in frustration. But, I guess the inner robot doesn't understand the answer. Anyway, since your proposal straddles language and physical intelligence, maybe it would shed some light on the gap between them.

Amy LaViers's avatar

Really interesting substack! (I just popped over here from your post about atoms)...

I've been curious about what an "embodied Turing test" would be for a long time. I like Marc Killpack's example of jointly carrying furniture, but I've always felt that the pair shouldn't be allowed to talk, just as language is often inhibited when carrying a very heavy load (yet people seem to manage).

Likewise, an elephant and a crow would fail your test. Lots of creatures have incredible "physical intelligence" without a symbolically annotated language. What if you just gesture to the red block repeatedly with strong arcs and a physical activation that perhaps gives an impression of impatience? Shouldn't the robot give you the block?

Language would be nice, sure, but a tightly formulated embodiment test shouldn't rest on it.

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